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This is a discussion on Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil within the Veloster Turbo Discussions forums, part of the Veloster Turbo Forum category; Walmart has the quarts of the new PUP for $7.98. That's not earth shattering but it's a pretty descent price. Buy 5 quarts and the ...

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    Walmart has the quarts of the new PUP for $7.98. That's not earth shattering but it's a pretty descent price. Buy 5 quarts and the shipping is free

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincejr View Post
    Been doing some reading and going to try Quaker state ultimate durability... It has 5 times the moly content at PP... Which is in a research paper showing it that moly limits LSPI events.... For some reason on my new 2016 the factory oil was awesome... With Pennzoil it feels like it's pulling timing/hesitating....

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    Wait a second, this stuff is pretty cheap right now. Are you saying this provides near the same protection as PUP? Any oil nerds have some input on this?
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    It sounds like vincejr was talking about Penzoil Platinum and not Ultra Platinum.... unless I am reading it wrong. That said, I changed the oil in my Veloster after a couple hundred miles of ownership and I switched to Royal Purple and it seems to create some interesting noises that I can only relate to lifter noise. Changed the oil 3k miles later to PUP and the noises went away and everything is driving well. I would be curious to see some oil nerd data on the Quaker State Ultimate Durability as well though. Always intersted in putting the best oil money can buy into any of my vehicles.

    as far as price, I use Amazon Prime Subscribe and Save and end up paying $7.73 per quart.
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    Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W30 Full Synthetic Motor, 5 qt ($20.24) I ordered 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by TyBardy View Post
    It sounds like vincejr was talking about Penzoil Platinum and not Ultra Platinum.... unless I am reading it wrong. That said, I changed the oil in my Veloster after a couple hundred miles of ownership and I switched to Royal Purple and it seems to create some interesting noises that I can only relate to lifter noise. Changed the oil 3k miles later to PUP and the noises went away and everything is driving well. I would be curious to see some oil nerd data on the Quaker State Ultimate Durability as well though. Always intersted in putting the best oil money can buy into any of my vehicles.

    as far as price, I use Amazon Prime Subscribe and Save and end up paying $7.73 per quart.
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    Don't get too caught up in the moly hubbub. The wear protection of PUP is not too far off of QSUD and it's much more resistant to thermal breakdown and it's designed to be GF-6-compliant (anti-LSPI).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rspec2014 View Post
    Royal purple is el crappo
    I don't think this was always the case... but at this point, I would have to agree, just based on the experience I had with my VT. So far I am happy with the PUP and with 3k mile oil changes, I think I am likely in good shape.
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    They changed the formulal years ago...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyBardy View Post
    It sounds like vincejr was talking about Penzoil Platinum and not Ultra Platinum.... unless I am reading it wrong. That said, I changed the oil in my Veloster after a couple hundred miles of ownership and I switched to Royal Purple and it seems to create some interesting noises that I can only relate to lifter noise. Changed the oil 3k miles later to PUP and the noises went away and everything is driving well. I would be curious to see some oil nerd data on the Quaker State Ultimate Durability as well though. Always intersted in putting the best oil money can buy into any of my vehicles.

    as far as price, I use Amazon Prime Subscribe and Save and end up paying $7.73 per quart.
    I found a new white paper on LSPI and the PQIA site has the Virgin oil analysis of Quaker State Ultimate Durability on it.

    Rat540 also liked the QSUD for it's 120k PSI film strength that didn't drop off even when he raised the test temperature from 230s to 280s.

    The LSPI paper tested 20 or 30 oils and ranked them by % of LSPI events during a test. Details of the test I forget.

    But the bottom line was they came up with an equation that is based on the amounts of certain additives. If the equation had an output value of -.5 or less, like -3... Then the oil was significantly better at not causing LSPI.

    There were 4 factors in the equation total that were tied to this number. The two I can remember we're Calcium and Molybdenum. In a nutshell high Calcium helps clean the motor but if you have high Calcium then you need a correct ratio of moly to keep LSPI from happening. Without moly LSPI was higher... But with too much moly, the oil would not clean the motor.

    It was a damn good white paper.

    I will dig it up....

    I'm sure that either PUP or QSUD will be quite fine in VTs.... No need to worry or scramble.

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    Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor Oil

    You're mixing the QSUD grades vs. results up, V. 0W-20 and 5W-20 were both above 121K PSI, but 5W-30 was at 113K PSI. The first two dropped off a lot more than the 5W-30 when tested at 275°F.

    As I said long ago in the anti-LSPI thread, Calcium (contained in additives) has the biggest negative effect and conventional (Group III) oil is second. Ester has the highest resistance and PAO is next-highest.

    Magnesium additives to replace Ca additives were shown in one SAE research paper to increase resistance to LSPI, but very few oils have Mg instead of Ca.

    Time to look at the latest set of articles on SAE.

    All the others I've looked at show Mo content has minimal effect on LSPI prevalence, so let's see the one you've found.
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