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I did a quick search but could not find a similar scenario, though I am new and unfamiliar to the site, so please accept my apology if I and asking noob questions.

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Used, like-new Turbo from a Kia dealership---I was promised the stock intake assembly for the car as part of the Owe/Due List because there is an aftermarket CAI on the car now. They are telling me the "base" air cleaner, resonator and duct assembly they ordered are the same items as the "WITH TURBO," (different) part number options I found on Hyundai's website.

Are they correct in this, or should I continue to refuse to take possession until they reorder the "with turbo" parts?

If I call Hyundai directly to ask for part numbers and they request the VIN, will they tag my Veloster as violating their warranty by having non-oem engine components???
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Backstory, I come from a 2007 MINI S which I LOVED. I have never been into "mod-ing" cars, but my MINI was my 2nd turbo/supercharged engine on a go-cart sized car and I can't go back. Even though I had uncommonly good luck with mine, it was not cost effective for me at current.

So I just bought a used 2016 Veloster Turbo with Style&Tech packages. The "older" min-70s gentleman who bought it new in March of '16 took possession in July (as the CarFax says?) and traded it in for a 4 door loaded Stinger in March of '18. Supposedly he wanted 4 doors. Weird, but okay.

I got lucky and snapped up the car the same week it was up for sale because it was mislabeled as a base but I caught the GDi in the photos. Yay me.

The older gentleman promised **and** the internet listing included (!!) the stock 18" alloys (but magically they never made it to me, the 2nd owner, grr) + rubbers,
+ A set of black Petrol 18" wheels with snows,
+ A spoiler, (carbon fiber maybe wrapped, Devil? I think?)
+ A custom car cover was made
+ AEM cold air intake with aftetmarket blow off thrown in.
Nice, right? He put 5,500 miles on it, then traded it in at Kia, so it was never CPO'd---Whatever, it's a new damn car for 11k less.

Here's the thing, I got hosed on the stock rims (longer story) and I live in New England, lower Maine coast 6 months of the year, 6 months in Mass. (Not as glamorous as it sounds)
A CAI is not a thing I am particularly interested in. I get into enough trouble sub-200hp, wasn't particularly fond of the way it sounded or the way it felt under the floorboard/seat when I drove it (VS the other I test drove). I am also terrified of hydrolocking OR the off chance of introducing particulates into the manifold.

Like I said, I don't know much about CAI or interior engine parts in general, but I do know this car needs to last me 8 years or so, in New England. Granted I do not drive much (less than 5000/year), it's still salt air and no current garage.

I've read people switching their stock back on for dealer service to be on the safe side, but I am having the stock assembly ordered BRAND NEW, and I want it to be THE RIGHT ONE, not the cheaper one the slightly-slimy dealer manager is trying to give me.

If I take what's given, they will wash their hands and I will probably never successfully get the more expensive "turbo" parts, if at all, without a maaaassive amount of effort I'm not trying to sign up for.

I am sitting on their check (outside loan) and my trade and have so far refused to take possession three times, until I see those parts in person. The manager is becoming less kind by the day, and though my sales guy is trying to be helpful, it's tense. The base style parts they ordered will be in tomorrow!

Trying to circumvent the Kia and their Hyundai dealership the company owns in my area.

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Does anyone know if I call Hyundai's parts parent or headquarters or whatever department, and had to give them the VIN on the car to check the compatibility of the parts, could it possibly void my manufacture's 49 month warranty???

I am so sorry this is so long, but in the interest of transparency and expediency of possible responses, it ended up that way.

Thank you, everyone!!
 

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welcome to the club!

FWIW, the intake assembly that isn't "with turbo" won't fit as the turbo has a completely different intake and airbox (maybe just the top part of the airbox) from the non turbo. the resonator after the filter however i believe will fit...
 

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Thank you! The car is actually a Turbo, that much I knew from the engine block photos.

As it turns out, for those interested, the dealership mislabeled the listing because someone typo'd the VIN by one number.
The same VIN number used to order the parts from their Hyundai store.

For WHATEVER reason, the CarFax from the mislabeled *listing* WAS actually the correct VIN, as was the copy of the title sent to my bank.
How that happened, I have no idea. This is the weirdest car buying experience I have ever had. AND the worst management handling of said buying experience.

Lovely.



Thank you so much for the quick input!
 

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If they did order the non-turbo intake assembly, please request to video their install process! That shit might be funny haha

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I actually went from a 2007 Mini S to the VT as well! I had HORRID luck with my mini. By the time I had traded it in it had 12k work of warranty work and 2k out of pocket(warranty ran out) in the three years I had it. As for calling about the parts I dont see them voiding your warranty like that. Plus parts get replaced, whos to know you had a CAI on there unless you tell them from the get go.
 

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Can I ask, are you satisfied with that decision? The VT being similarly compact hatch and quick to boot, do you miss the feel of your MINI?

I am devastated by the loss of my S. I have had non-epileptic, petit mal seizures for about 5 years... I got the news that the DSC module had failed & it wasn't really financially viable to fix the 11yo car, I had a full grand mal the same week. I don't keep a lot of "stuff," and my MINI is my most precious possession. My GSP tops any car, but she's not a possession 😉

Theoretically, I could have replaced it instead of buying a VT, but the reliability history of Hyundai and the fully loaded model I was able to get made it a better option. Should I have run into a terrible-luck MINI, I would be screwed, which added to my shying away for this buy.

I think I will like th VT, since it's still a stick and does have a good kick. I know the dog will love her own window, instead of being kicked in the closed back (deleted seats) when I have a passenger!

We'll see, since I pick it up tonight!!
 

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I was very happy with the move to the VT. Stock to stock while the VT was a couple hundred pounds heaver the power difference made up for it. Still felt like a little go kart and the added room was nice. I actually did end up trading my VT in last month for a Focus ST(the car I had wanted but could not get at the time so I ended up with VT). Also the fact that I had the VT Rally edition, I was getting sick of the paint maintenance haha. I def miss the VT, but im digging the ST quite a bit haha.
 

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Can I ask, are you satisfied with that decision? The VT being similarly compact hatch and quick to boot, do you miss the feel of your MINI?

I am devastated by the loss of my S. I have had non-epileptic, petit mal seizures for about 5 years... I got the news that the DSC module had failed & it wasn't really financially viable to fix the 11yo car, I had a full grand mal the same week. I don't keep a lot of "stuff," and my MINI is my most precious possession. My GSP tops any car, but she's not a possession 😉

Theoretically, I could have replaced it instead of buying a VT, but the reliability history of Hyundai and the fully loaded model I was able to get made it a better option. Should I have run into a terrible-luck MINI, I would be screwed, which added to my shying away for this buy.

I think I will like th VT, since it's still a stick and does have a good kick. I know the dog will love her own window, instead of being kicked in the closed back (deleted seats) when I have a passenger!
I still have my 2012 JCW coopers s :) i couldnt part with mine :) yes many problems but such an awesome car. 116k on mine :)
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I wiiiiiiish I had not parted with my S, I wish I wish I wish... but it had to be done all in on my "new" VT.

That said, the VT is not a disappointment at all, it is just very different. Especially the clutch and 1st placement---for whatever friggen reason, I am adapting slowly.

AND I KEEP REACHING FOR THE WINDOW SWITCH ON THE DASHBOARD! That is pissing me off, on the reg tbh but the waaaaay more intuitive/user-friendly nav system, hands down, kicks MINI's ass, holy sh...

Watching my GSP slide around on the black leather is definitely making me wince, poor pup. I don't want to yank out the seats because the back is actually functional space for a fully formed adult, unlike its predecessor.

Exorbitantly expensive neoprene covers, here we come $$$$
 

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I still have my 2012 JCW coopers s <img src="http://www.velosterturbo.org/forum/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> i couldnt part with mine <img src="http://www.velosterturbo.org/forum/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /> yes many problems but such an awesome car. 116k on mine <img src="http://www.velosterturbo.org/forum/images/smilies/smile.png" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
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They were still having issues in 2012? I had heard after 08 they had gotten the kinks worked out.
I freely admit my understanding may be at least partially misinformed or incorrect---but to my knowledge, every year and most models have issues of one kind or another. I myself was part of a class action over tensioner failures (mine was caught and replaced before a catastrophic failure) and they go through a ton of recalls from 2002 on. Expensive to maintain and extensive repairs are harder to locate experienced mechanics at fair prices. My father has kept BMWs for 25 years, as they are the parent company now, they follow that history. Anything well maintained and correctly repaired can last hundreds of thousands of miles, of course. My father's 525iX has over 350,000 miles and still lives daily.

That said, they have a cult following for a multitude of reason. They are apart/so unique, compared to anything in their class and they are SO MUCH FUN. Such character and zip---like a reeeeeally fancy go cart 😉
 
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