[Rawtashk]

Should I? I've had the VT for about 2500 miles (it would be a brand new style/tech that I'd trade for), and I like it (love the look)...but it's not getting the MPG that I was expecting out of it. I know, I know "go buy a prius if you want mgp!", but I wanted to get something that got me good fuel economy as well as look good with lots of amenities. Sticker average MPG is 31, yet the average fuelly VT gets 26.59, whereas the average NAV gets 31.3. I'm getting about 26.6 right now, but that's ONLY because I'm staying out of the turbo. I'm not driving it hard at ALL. I drove my 06 Scion tC harder, and I still got about the same mileage.

Is the NAV that much of a dog? My wife has a Kia Rio, which also has 138hp, so I know it's not a whole lot of horses. I'd also like to have a sunroof in my car (the tC had one, and I didn't realize how much I liked it until I didn't have it anymore), so there's that added bonus as well....but I feel like the VT would hold its value longer because of the turbo and the leather/heated seats.

 

[RieBauer17]

I think its all about what you expect from a car. My 2011 Accent had 110 horsepower and with the 5speed manual it felt real quick. So in my opinion any car can feel quick if you have the proper perspective. Test drive a NA that's the only way to know.

Do you live in a cold climate? My car has gotten 25-28 all winter but when I took a trip to Florida I achieved 37. Its beginning to warm up where I live now and I'm already seeing 31s pop up. And those numbers are with moderately fast driving. Give the car a chance to reach the sticker #s before you trade.

 

[swordfish]

Also, the general consensus is that the motor seems to settle into her best economy/power around 3K miles. You might see some improvement as soon as you crest that milestone. And I also agree that if you live in a climate where you see winter gas, that can also have an effect on your mileage.

 

[jeremy]

No way I would it. The NAV is a dog, pure and simple.

 

[AZG23]

Wife has an Elantra Limited with the same 138 hp...night and day diff...no way would I trade

 

[mwil028]

dont do it!!

 

[NEVL666]

.. The NAV is a dog .. .

Maybe so, but it's a well trained, obedient dog who's only issue is that he's just had his nuts cut off.

 

[MyDianaZ06]

I've traded up on a car, Sonata base for a decked out sonata. Never thought of trading down. You are going to have so much negative equity. We ate our far share of Neg Equ. But it is the exact car she originally wanted and it will be our last car we buy her until it dies. So we are going to try to make it last as long as we can. GOING DOWN though is a different story. You will be better off selling your vt on the street and paying the car off with that THEN refinance for a nav and you will be less than what you pay currently rather than just a straight trade. It is up to you though. Do whatever makes you happy. Just know you will kick yourself in the nuts if the nav mpg isn't as good as the vt.

 

[Rawtashk]

As for the negative equity on it...I talked the dealer down to $20,700 for my VT, and a style/tech NAV would be only a few hundred more (normally). I'd have to pay the $250 franchise fee (or whatever the hell that is), but I wouldn't be eating much negative equity. There's a dealership in town that has a NAV style/tech with 18k miles on it and they're offering to trade me straight across, +$3500 on their end.

I'm not completely sold on the idea. I effing LOVE having a leather interior, and I also like having that extra HP if I need it.....but there's a different between what I want, and what's the responsible thing to have right now. The wife and I are moving out to Los Angeles here within a few months (going to try that whole starving actor thing while I still can), and I am banking on having decent MPG, and a 100k warranty so that I don't have unexpected costs.

Bleh. I suck at making decisions.

 

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stick with the VT...

 

[swordfish]

Honestly, if you are not a crazy motor head and, given your comments you list the leather as your primary loss, I'm guessing that you are not. Then by all means roll it up. Just make sure that you tell us what dealership you take it to and some of the shopping trolls on here can dive in and get a good price on a lightly used VT!!

And if you do consider yourself a car nut, put on your nomex pants, because I will let loose with the flame posting.

 

[NEVL666]

... The wife and I are moving out to Los Angeles here within a few months ... .

I guess you've just answered your own question. Why would you want a VT to crawl along in LA traffic .. hell you could do that on a bicycle and really do the 'responsible thing' :tongue:

 

[mohawk24]

i just crossed 3k miles and can assure u that the mpg goes up. I think the oil change helped alot too. They have to have break in fluid in there runs so much better now. Just hold out the nav is a dog

 

[CES]

IMO you will always compare the NAV with the VT and therefore never be fully satisfied. Also remember that the estimated MPG for the NAV might not be as great as it seems just like other hyundai models. What I'm saying is that considering the amount of money you will probably loose is not worth 2 or 3 extra MPG and with significantly less power and looks. It's your choice though.

 

[Cocolizoman]

26 MPG is actually not that bad. Other cars with the same amout of power do worse than that. If I were you I would keep it. It took me a lot of time and search to get mine and I couldn't be any happier with my car. I already have more than 8k miles in it and I get about 28MPG on the city. It isn't just about your foot on the gas pedal, it is also about how much traffic there is. In LA there is going to be a lot of traffic, so don't expect the MPGs to get any better. :crazy:

 

[MB_VT]

Should I? I've had the VT for about 2500 miles (it would be a brand new style/tech that I'd trade for), and I like it (love the look)...but it's not getting the MPG that I was expecting out of it. I know, I know "go buy a prius if you want mgp!", but I wanted to get something that got me good fuel economy as well as look good with lots of amenities. Sticker average MPG is 31, yet the average fuelly VT gets 26.59, whereas the average NAV gets 31.3. I'm getting about 26.6 right now, but that's ONLY because I'm staying out of the turbo. I'm not driving it hard at ALL. I drove my 06 Scion tC harder, and I still got about the same mileage.

Is the NAV that much of a dog? My wife has a Kia Rio, which also has 138hp, so I know it's not a whole lot of horses. I'd also like to have a sunroof in my car (the tC had one, and I didn't realize how much I liked it until I didn't have it anymore), so there's that added bonus as well....but I feel like the VT would hold its value longer because of the turbo and the leather/heated seats.

Yes, the NA V is that much of a dog. There really is no comparison between them performance wise.

In the city I average just over 21mpg and this is still by far the most fuel efficient vehicle that I have owned. I am used to getting 16-17 mpg on premium in my other cars. So, it's a matter of perspective.

Assuming a gallon of fuel cost $3.60 and you drive 15000 miles a year. The difference in fuel cost between 26.6mpg and 31.3mpg works out to be $25 a month. Hardly a significant saving in my opinion.

 

[sql-lover]

Sir...

I was getting 19mpg from a 270HP car.

Now, I am getting 26 city, that is A LOT! Do not do it!... you will regret it.

Financially speaking is a bad move, no matter what the dealer says or how they put the numbers. You are just giving a away a car which value is higher than the one you will get later, is pure math. If you go up, maybe, but not the other way.

Please understand that all new cars need to pass the break-in period. That can take several thousand miles or months, so please be patient. I am telling you that by experience. It was the same for all my bikes; it was the same for all my previous cars, which were new as well. You wait, change oil and filter for 1st time, and your numbers start going up.

Now, on stop and go traffic, turbo or non-turbo, be realistic. Achieving anything higher than 26 will be really hard, but that's not because the turbo itself, but the driving conditions.

I never believe what car makers advertise about their mpg. Those numbers are provided as a reference. Under realistic conditions, the vehicle will rarely achieve that. Not impossible, but really hard.

The VT is fun, with lot of amenities, but gives you decent mpg without sacrificing power. The regular Veloster may save you a few extra mpg, but does it really make a difference on your wallet? Only you can tell. But if that really affects your monthly budget to a point that you need to sell your car, maybe you should never get a new car since the very beginning, get a used Civic instead. I paid around 6k for the one my wife had and was getting fantastic mpg. But it scared the !*() out of me in hwy ... passing cars and getting into the freeway was a real challenge and an "act of faith" ;-)

 

[sql-lover]

I guess you've just answered your own question. Why would you want a VT to crawl along in LA traffic .. hell you could do that on a bicycle and really do the 'responsible thing' :tongue:

Or a motorcycle... like a Triumph Bonneville ;-) ... that would be as good as the regular Veloster but triple the fun!

 

[NEVL666]

Or a motorcycle... like a Triumph Bonneville ;-) ... that would be as good as the regular Veloster but triple the fun!

Agreed, but it would have to be the right year Bonnie. IMO 1970 was the last year of the true Bonnie, and they were way too unreliable to be useful as a commuter. I've had my share of Bonnies (and Trophies) when I was back in the UK .. kinda miss them.

 

[Raptor08]

if what you're looking for in a car is good mpg and all the extras, why not?

if you don't need the extra power it's probably a good trade for you. Me? No way am i trading... but it just depends on what will make you happy.