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Has anyone other than me used the Lucas Sythetic Oil Stabilizer in their vehicles?
I used it in my 97 F-150 for 10 yrs., and sold it with 260k miles on it and never used a drop of oil, and never even had to go inside the inside to fix anything. so I know Lucas is good!
I am just curious if say a high grade Valvoline Syn-MAx oil w/ Lucas is just as good or better than the top of the line oils like Amsoil or Royal Purple?
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Stay stock with the filters. They're not expensive and better built than most on the market. Hyundai also posted a service bulletin about using factory filters so they have a hard on for that if your concerned about warranty.
What about liquid moly?

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What about liquid moly?

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I tried this stuff once and posted an oil analysis sheet on it.

A famous member here who had all of his extremely helpful posts nuked a while back told me based on these results that the oil is just "meh". Much better off using Penzoil or Motul. A good oil, just not for our cars.
Just a quick review again; too much calcium, surprisingly low amount of molybdenum (since the product has Moly in the name), higher than normal iron wear, moderate levels of phosphorus & zinc (indicator of ZDDP). Do not know if this is PAO-based or ester-based. My guess is not.
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I've read that it's's a group 3 Pao based with some diesters in it....

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There is no such thing as Group III PAO, so it appears to be a semi-synthetic oil.

Group III = hydrocracked mineral-based
Group III+ = natural gas-based
Group IV = PAO-based
Group V = Ester-based

Personally, I'd stay away from any Group III oil, especially one with high calcium.
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Following up on the AMSOIL front. They finally reformulated Signature Series to be anti-LSPI and in the process, there's a new interim oil specification since GF-6 will not be ready until 2019.

GF-5 Plus (aka SN Plus) is the new spec.

Doesn't describe how the LSPI test is performed, only that the maximum number of LSPI events is 5. Also does not say in what timeframe.

Anyway, we can now add reformulated AMSOIL Signature Series to the short list of anti-LSPI oils.

I'll look for VOAs on BITOG.

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I’m lucky the dealer I go to uses only Pennziol Ultra Platinum
I’m lucky the dealer I go to uses only Pennziol Ultra Platinum
wow, where tf is this? That's dope!
I've been using Amsoil SS from day one, so I was curious about their re formulation and called their tech dept. was told there was zero lspi events, when up to 5 were allowed. Guess that means I'm free to mash the pedal :cool:
I came across this motor oil today. First time I have heard of it and was wondering if anyone has any experience or thoughts about it.
It's MAG 1 Full Synthetic with the following properties.

Boron, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.023
Calcium, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.135
Cold Cranking Simulator at (°C), cP ASTM D5293 4400 (-30)
Color ASTM D1500 3
Flash Point, °C ASTM D92 227
Flash Point, °F ASTM D92 441
Foam Seq. III (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 0/0
Foam Seq. II (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 10/0
Foam Seq. I (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 0/0
Gravity, °API ASTM D287 34.93
High Temperature Foaming, static foam ASTM D6082 (Opt A) 15/0
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 100°C, cP ASTM D6616 6.9
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 150°C, cP ASTM D5481 3.2
Magnesium, wt.% ASTM D5185 0.059
Molybdenum, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.0079
Nitrogen, wt. % ASTM D4629 0.104
Noack Volatility, % loss ASTM D6375 12
Phosphorus, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.076
Pour Point °C (°F) ASTM D5950 -45°C (-49°F)
Pumping Viscosity at (°C), cP ASTM D4684 15,000 (-35)
Shear Stability, Final Viscosity in cSt ASTM D6278 9.4
Specific Gravity @ 60°F (15.6°C) ASTM D4052 0.8502
Sulfated Ash, wt. % ASTM D874 0.9
Sulfur, wt. % ASTM D4951 0.3
TBN, mgKOH/g ASTM D2896 7.9
Viscosity @ 100°C cSt ASTM D445 10.91
Viscosity @ 40°C cSt ASTM D445 62.09
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 169
Zinc, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.085

Not being a petroleum engineer, I don't even play one on TV, I am asking the seasoned pros here.
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Just link us to the product site where the specs are located.

The parent company also owns Gumout, not sure if that's a good thing or not, along with private labels.
Just so you know, Warren oil is the cheap shit the local gas stations carry.

Their MAG1 offerings all have NOACK readings of 12-13%. That's bad.

Flashpoint is 226-227° C. Average.

Calcium weight is .135% and judging by the percentage of the other elements seems to be comparatively high.
Their literature makes no mention of GF-5 Plus, nor GF-6 nor LSPI.

No mention of PAO (Group IV) or ester (Group V) base stocks.

I'd avoid it unless I was cutting it with CERMA oil and it would likely have to be like a buck a quart.
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Thanks for checking it out. I had never heard of this brand until this morning. Wasn't sure if it was the next great thing out there or not.

I will be steering clear of it then. Keeping PUP as my go to and T6 as back up.
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I just got my Veloster turbo 2016 with 38k miles on it. Haven't changed the oil yet but wanted to swap it over to synthetic, any recommendations? Not really a car nut... but this car is changing that.. I mean look at me all up on forums n stuff... LOL any help is greatly appreciated!!
Yeah, I posted about AMSOIL’s reformulation back in November, 2017 (post #207).
"I said use cheap oil and change it every 3k miles/6 months. And to be clear the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum of old (2013) was really good stuff, but since it was reformulated with GTL stocks a lot of it's appeal went by the wayside (NOACK used to 6% and now it's 11%). Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is also not dexos1 gen 2 certified. This is a GM certification that was created to address issues common to TGDI engines, like crankshaft bearing wear, LSPI, and intake valve deposits. Regular Pennzoil Platinum is better than Ultra Platinum for TGDI use."

This guy on ankther forum is trying to tell me PP is better than PUP for our GDI engines lol whyyyy?
I just purchased a 2013 VT with 102K. I am going to be doing an oil change for the first time. Can anyone tell me if Pennzoil Platinum is a good synth to use and if so which one as there is Pennzoil Platinum, Pennzoil Platinum Euro, and Pennzoil Platinum Ultra. All three are currently on sale for $32cdn or less at my local Canadian Tire.
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