Motor oil recommendations?
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I tried this stuff once and posted an oil analysis sheet on it.
A famous member here who had all of his extremely helpful posts nuked a while back told me based on these results that the oil is just "meh". Much better off using Penzoil or Motul. A good oil, just not for our cars.
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Just a quick review again; too much calcium, surprisingly low amount of molybdenum (since the product has Moly in the name), higher than normal iron wear, moderate levels of phosphorus & zinc (indicator of ZDDP). Do not know if this is PAO-based or ester-based. My guess is not.
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There is no such thing as Group III PAO, so it appears to be a semi-synthetic oil.
Group III = hydrocracked mineral-based
Group III+ = natural gas-based
Group IV = PAO-based
Group V = Ester-based
Personally, I'd stay away from any Group III oil, especially one with high calcium.
Group III = hydrocracked mineral-based
Group III+ = natural gas-based
Group IV = PAO-based
Group V = Ester-based
Personally, I'd stay away from any Group III oil, especially one with high calcium.
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Following up on the AMSOIL front. They finally reformulated Signature Series to be anti-LSPI and in the process, there's a new interim oil specification since GF-6 will not be ready until 2019.
GF-5 Plus (aka SN Plus) is the new spec.
https://fuelsandlubes.com/oems-ask-api-for-ilsac-gf-5-plus-lspi-standard-by-january-1-2018/
https://fuelsandlubes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ILSAC-GF-5-draft-Jul-20-2017-LSPI.pdf
Doesn't describe how the LSPI test is performed, only that the maximum number of LSPI events is 5. Also does not say in what timeframe.
Anyway, we can now add reformulated AMSOIL Signature Series to the short list of anti-LSPI oils.
I'll look for VOAs on BITOG.
More info:
https://kendallmotoroil.com/newsroom/gf-5-plus-addressing-lspi-in-direct-injection-engines
GF-5 Plus (aka SN Plus) is the new spec.
https://fuelsandlubes.com/oems-ask-api-for-ilsac-gf-5-plus-lspi-standard-by-january-1-2018/
https://fuelsandlubes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ILSAC-GF-5-draft-Jul-20-2017-LSPI.pdf
Doesn't describe how the LSPI test is performed, only that the maximum number of LSPI events is 5. Also does not say in what timeframe.
Anyway, we can now add reformulated AMSOIL Signature Series to the short list of anti-LSPI oils.
I'll look for VOAs on BITOG.
More info:
https://kendallmotoroil.com/newsroom/gf-5-plus-addressing-lspi-in-direct-injection-engines
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wow, where tf is this? That's dope!
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I came across this motor oil today. First time I have heard of it and was wondering if anyone has any experience or thoughts about it.
It's MAG 1 Full Synthetic with the following properties.
TYPICAL PROPERTIES
Boron, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.023
Calcium, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.135
Cold Cranking Simulator at (°C), cP ASTM D5293 4400 (-30)
Color ASTM D1500 3
Flash Point, °C ASTM D92 227
Flash Point, °F ASTM D92 441
Foam Seq. III (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 0/0
Foam Seq. II (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 10/0
Foam Seq. I (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 0/0
Gravity, °API ASTM D287 34.93
High Temperature Foaming, static foam ASTM D6082 (Opt A) 15/0
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 100°C, cP ASTM D6616 6.9
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 150°C, cP ASTM D5481 3.2
Magnesium, wt.% ASTM D5185 0.059
Molybdenum, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.0079
Nitrogen, wt. % ASTM D4629 0.104
Noack Volatility, % loss ASTM D6375 12
Phosphorus, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.076
Pour Point °C (°F) ASTM D5950 -45°C (-49°F)
Pumping Viscosity at (°C), cP ASTM D4684 15,000 (-35)
Shear Stability, Final Viscosity in cSt ASTM D6278 9.4
Specific Gravity @ 60°F (15.6°C) ASTM D4052 0.8502
Sulfated Ash, wt. % ASTM D874 0.9
Sulfur, wt. % ASTM D4951 0.3
TBN, mgKOH/g ASTM D2896 7.9
Viscosity @ 100°C cSt ASTM D445 10.91
Viscosity @ 40°C cSt ASTM D445 62.09
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 169
Zinc, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.085
Not being a petroleum engineer, I don't even play one on TV, I am asking the seasoned pros here.
It's MAG 1 Full Synthetic with the following properties.
TYPICAL PROPERTIES
Boron, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.023
Calcium, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.135
Cold Cranking Simulator at (°C), cP ASTM D5293 4400 (-30)
Color ASTM D1500 3
Flash Point, °C ASTM D92 227
Flash Point, °F ASTM D92 441
Foam Seq. III (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 0/0
Foam Seq. II (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 10/0
Foam Seq. I (Tendency/Stability), mL ASTM D892 (Opt. A) 0/0
Gravity, °API ASTM D287 34.93
High Temperature Foaming, static foam ASTM D6082 (Opt A) 15/0
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 100°C, cP ASTM D6616 6.9
High Temperature / High Shear Vis at 150°C, cP ASTM D5481 3.2
Magnesium, wt.% ASTM D5185 0.059
Molybdenum, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.0079
Nitrogen, wt. % ASTM D4629 0.104
Noack Volatility, % loss ASTM D6375 12
Phosphorus, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.076
Pour Point °C (°F) ASTM D5950 -45°C (-49°F)
Pumping Viscosity at (°C), cP ASTM D4684 15,000 (-35)
Shear Stability, Final Viscosity in cSt ASTM D6278 9.4
Specific Gravity @ 60°F (15.6°C) ASTM D4052 0.8502
Sulfated Ash, wt. % ASTM D874 0.9
Sulfur, wt. % ASTM D4951 0.3
TBN, mgKOH/g ASTM D2896 7.9
Viscosity @ 100°C cSt ASTM D445 10.91
Viscosity @ 40°C cSt ASTM D445 62.09
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 169
Zinc, wt. % ASTM D5185 0.085
Not being a petroleum engineer, I don't even play one on TV, I am asking the seasoned pros here.
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https://mag1.com/products/passenger-car-motor-oil/full-synthetic-motor-oil/
The parent company also owns Gumout, not sure if that's a good thing or not, along with private labels.
The parent company also owns Gumout, not sure if that's a good thing or not, along with private labels.
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Just so you know, Warren oil is the cheap shit the local gas stations carry.
Their MAG1 offerings all have NOACK readings of 12-13%. That's bad.
Flashpoint is 226-227° C. Average.
Calcium weight is .135% and judging by the percentage of the other elements seems to be comparatively high.
Their literature makes no mention of GF-5 Plus, nor GF-6 nor LSPI.
No mention of PAO (Group IV) or ester (Group V) base stocks.
I'd avoid it unless I was cutting it with CERMA oil and it would likely have to be like a buck a quart.
Their MAG1 offerings all have NOACK readings of 12-13%. That's bad.
Flashpoint is 226-227° C. Average.
Calcium weight is .135% and judging by the percentage of the other elements seems to be comparatively high.
Their literature makes no mention of GF-5 Plus, nor GF-6 nor LSPI.
No mention of PAO (Group IV) or ester (Group V) base stocks.
I'd avoid it unless I was cutting it with CERMA oil and it would likely have to be like a buck a quart.
I just got my Veloster turbo 2016 with 38k miles on it. Haven't changed the oil yet but wanted to swap it over to synthetic, any recommendations? Not really a car nut... but this car is changing that.. I mean look at me all up on forums n stuff... LOL any help is greatly appreciated!!
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https://www.amsoil.com/lander/lspi-update/
Nice little video about Low Speed Pre-Ignition oil.
Nice little video about Low Speed Pre-Ignition oil.
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"I said use cheap oil and change it every 3k miles/6 months. And to be clear the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum of old (2013) was really good stuff, but since it was reformulated with GTL stocks a lot of it's appeal went by the wayside (NOACK used to 6% and now it's 11%). Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is also not dexos1 gen 2 certified. This is a GM certification that was created to address issues common to TGDI engines, like crankshaft bearing wear, LSPI, and intake valve deposits. Regular Pennzoil Platinum is better than Ultra Platinum for TGDI use."
This guy on ankther forum is trying to tell me PP is better than PUP for our GDI engines lol whyyyy?
This guy on ankther forum is trying to tell me PP is better than PUP for our GDI engines lol whyyyy?
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I just purchased a 2013 VT with 102K. I am going to be doing an oil change for the first time. Can anyone tell me if Pennzoil Platinum is a good synth to use and if so which one as there is Pennzoil Platinum, Pennzoil Platinum Euro, and Pennzoil Platinum Ultra. All three are currently on sale for $32cdn or less at my local Canadian Tire.
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