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We're super excited to finally bring you our 4130 Chromoly HOLLOW Adjustable front swaybar specifically designed for your Hyundai Veloster Turbo/NAV by our team here at Piercemotorsports!!! We've been in development on this one for several months---then production has taken longer than expected, but we've been testing the prototype now on our racecar and are finally ready to offer it for order! We've chosen chromoly for our front bar (as well as all of our products) because of it's superior quality/benefits to mild steel. Chromoly is much stronger in every way---torsion/shear/tensile and provides much more durability/cycle life than mild steel at much higher yields. This allows us to use smaller/lighter material and get much stronger/more durable/repeatable long lasting parts!

We've chosen to use a hollow bar (because the chromoly allows us to!) and a bit larger diameter to save nearly 34% of the weight while increasing the roll couple/stiffness the appropriate amount. There are many advantages to using a tubular ARB (anti roll bar) rather than a solid bar. The foremost advantage is the weight reduction that can be achieved by using hollow technology. For the suspension designer, the flexibility of using a tube greatly increases the ability to really ‘fine-tune’ the design. All one has to do is change the wall thickness of the material to give an incremental change in stiffness. A designer can then adjust the stiffness of a bar using the same vehicle packaging in this way for a number of different bars.

Now, many misconceptions are floating around about the hollow bar designs. One major one is: that a solid bar is stiffer than a hollow one. This is only partially correct. If a solid bar and a hollow one of the same diameter are compared, then the solid bar is miniamally stiffer than the hollow version. By increasing the outer diameter of the hollow bar, and fine-tuning the wall thickness, you can yield the same performance while reducing weight. How many racing designers try to cut every ounce out of the chassis? They all do! Reducing weight acts like adding horsepower.

After testing several different front rates we've got our bar in the sweet spot---it works perfectly with our rear torsion bar and we'll give a neutral balance to the platform while massively increasing overall grip. We were careful not to create a bar that we feel is TOO stiff and will create understeer when used with aftermarket suspension parts. When coilovers/stiffer springs are used the balance goes from neutral to being able to rotate under lift throttle/motorsports type applications!!! I'm super excited about the quality/benefits/fine tuning available and even more excited to see the expression on peoples faces when they bolt this on and spin it around the block for the first time!!!

Our bar has three positions/holes of adjustability which we'll net 6 possible balance/performance settings. The bars will work/have benefits with both stock and modified suspenions---will work with both oem/aftermarket endlinks! They'll come powdercoated in white to match our rear torsion bar with urethane bushings/grease---install time on this should be about an hour and a half for the do it yourselfer---and a bit less by a professional on a rack. We'll be doing a full write up with pics on the install soon!

We're going to offer these at a discounted rate with free shipping as we always try do with our newly released product. For the first 25 units they'll be $190 shipped to your door ($210 to Canada and PM me if your in other countries) and include a large/XL Piercemotorsports TSHIRT!!! You can paypal directly to [email protected] and leave a note saying your after our front swaybar/your shipping address and we'll confirm immediately. The bars/bushings are nearly out of production and should ship within a few weeks! The pics are of an early prototype bar---the units will be powdercoated white and slightly smaller in design!!!

Here's a link to the thread in the suspension section for pictures and comments!
http://www.velosterturbo.org/forum/veloster-suspension/7910-piercemotorsports-front-chromoly-adjustable-swaybar.html
 

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i can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Which hole do I mount thru to get the best grip? I also ordered whiteline end links. And those kinda confuse me too.
 

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Which hole do I mount thru to get the best grip? I also ordered whiteline end links. And those kinda confuse me too.
Start with the factory links on the center hole. Then see where you are at. The best grip is entirely dependent on to many variables to just give you a magic setting.
 

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You could even go softest setting if you don't mind doing some work---that's the hole furthest out---drive for a bit and make sure and hit some speedbumps, driveways and of course some tighter radius turns---then move one side to the middle hole and repeat---then move the other side to middle (you can get 5 positions/rates out of the bar) and keep moving it around until you've gone to far for your taste---probably take you an hour or so to run through all the settings and then you'll know!
 

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To add...

With each adjustment while you're dialing in your bar set / link depth... Take a tire crayon and mark lines along the tire edge where it rolls to sidewall. After each adjustment, take notes of how much chalk is worn off. This helps you dial in front lateral tire grip.
You're looking for the best combination of tire grip + driving feel.
 
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Thanks for the input guys. Josh, u think when u go to install these, I can swing by u for some assistance?
 

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You could even go softest setting if you don't mind doing some work---that's the hole furthest out---drive for a bit and make sure and hit some speedbumps, driveways and of course some tighter radius turns---then move one side to the middle hole and repeat---then move the other side to middle (you can get 5 positions/rates out of the bar) and keep moving it around until you've gone to far for your taste---probably take you an hour or so to run through all the settings and then you'll know!
To add...

With each adjustment while you're dialing in your bar set / link depth... Take a tire crayon and mark lines along the tire edge where it rolls to sidewall. After each adjustment, take notes of how much chalk is worn off. This helps you dial in front lateral tire grip.
You're looking for the best combination of tire grip + driving feel.
This is some of the best advice I've ever seen on suspension modifications and how to work with them. Damn you people are good!

Now question...I've always learned about dialing in anti-sway bars was by feel and to balance out the car but this chalk technique is new to me. I understand how to use chalk to determine correct tire pressure with autocross but what exactly are you looking for when this practice is used for tuning an anti-sway bar?
 

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This is some of the best advice I've ever seen on suspension modifications and how to work with them. Damn you people are good!

Now question...I've always learned about dialing in anti-sway bars was by feel and to balance out the car but this chalk technique is new to me. I understand how to use chalk to determine correct tire pressure with autocross but what exactly are you looking for when this practice is used for tuning an anti-sway bar?
x2!! Every swaybar and end link setup I've ever bought we non adjustable. They were thicker and stronger, end of story. Lol
 
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