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I would be all for just a stock replacement but im not playing with amps or anything. I dont even have the ambition to run a real boost gauge in this car.
exactly.. i'm looking for something relatively inexpensive.. stock replacement.. and not huge, dropping a 150W peak sub into the car will make it sound completely different lol most of them i've found range from 150W peak to 250 w peak
 

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ok so for my list

JL Audio 8W3V3-4 (8W3V34) 8" Single 4 ohm W3v3 Car Subwoofer
this was the one that was recommended by a couple people on the boards

MB Quart RLP204 8" Dual 4 ohm Low-Profile Reference Series Subwoofer
RE Audio REX8D4 (REX-8D4) 8" Dual 4 ohm Car Subwoofer
Rockford Fosgate P2D2-8 (P2D28) 8" Punch P2 2-Ohm DVC Subwoofer (this might be cutting it close idk the depth of the stock sub just going bassed off the lj is 4 9/16" it says it needs a very small box but CAN't be used for shallow mount so idk
Rockford Fosgate P3SD2-8 (p3sd28) 8" Dual 2-Ohm Punch Series Shallow Mount Car Subwoofer little more expensive but should definitely fit
JBL GTO804 (GTO-804) 8" Grand Touring Single 4 ohm Car Subwoofer (pushing higher rms, which might start being too much for stock amp)
Pioneer TS-SW841D (TSSW841D) 8" Single 4 ohm Shallow-Mount Sub

sorry I said peak before but ment RMS .. you cant really get many subs that low peak
 

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are you going to add an amp? if so be aware of 2 things ... the CU of the plastic enclosure is very small altho ---you could customize it and add an aero tuned -port to make more bass. The down side to doing all this is that the side of your car will vibrate terribly and make alot of buzzing. you will not be able to stop this easily.
 

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ok so for my list

JL Audio 8W3V3-4 (8W3V34) 8" Single 4 ohm W3v3 Car Subwoofer
this was the one that was recommended by a couple people on the boards

MB Quart RLP204 8" Dual 4 ohm Low-Profile Reference Series Subwoofer
RE Audio REX8D4 (REX-8D4) 8" Dual 4 ohm Car Subwoofer
Rockford Fosgate P2D2-8 (P2D28) 8" Punch P2 2-Ohm DVC Subwoofer (this might be cutting it close idk the depth of the stock sub just going bassed off the lj is 4 9/16" it says it needs a very small box but CAN't be used for shallow mount so idk
Rockford Fosgate P3SD2-8 (p3sd28) 8" Dual 2-Ohm Punch Series Shallow Mount Car Subwoofer little more expensive but should definitely fit
JBL GTO804 (GTO-804) 8" Grand Touring Single 4 ohm Car Subwoofer (pushing higher rms, which might start being too much for stock amp)
Pioneer TS-SW841D (TSSW841D) 8" Single 4 ohm Shallow-Mount Sub

sorry I said peak before but ment RMS .. you cant really get many subs that low peak
Here is a picture of the stock sub it is just shy of 4 inches, unfortunately, I dont remeber the depth of the box, but it is not much more that this. Another thing to research is the ohm value of the stock sub it's not printed anyplace on the speaker. I remember reading someplace that the stock speakers where 2 ohm, if this is true for the sub also and you go to a 4 ohm sub, you will be disappointed as the output will be less. just something to think about.

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are you going to add an amp? if so be aware of 2 things ... the CU of the plastic enclosure is very small altho ---you could customize it and add an aero tuned -port to make more bass. The down side to doing all this is that the side of your car will vibrate terribly and make alot of buzzing. you will not be able to stop this easily.
I wasn't planning on adding an amp

and though the output would be less for a 4 ohm sub it'll still be better then the stock 40 w peak :) i'm thinking about snatching up the MB quartz (which is listed as a fit for the stock camaro system as well as other stock systems) it's a shallow mount so it shouldn't have depth issues at only 2.75" deep my only question is is the stock sub dual voice coil or single? if it's single how would I hook up a dual VC sub easily? i'm looking for this to be as PnP as possible the pioneer isn't too much more expensive either though

also let it be known for me i'm not looking for chest vibrating bass.. I have a 12" sub in my ion for that lol
 

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I wanna say it will help , but it might actually hurt the bass, because you cant max the stock one out at full volume, which means there isnt enuff power to overdrive it. Therefore if you swap in a "better higher watt rated one" it is more likely that the stiffer suspension on it would require more power to move it and thus less bass output. I will say that it would make the bass crisper, but less loud unless you power it with an add-on amplifier. even a crappy $30. 50watt amp would be enough, or a powered crossover/linedriver. You could always add that later if you feel you need it.
eggscellent.. so I might try out the pioneer sub... and mount it in stock place.. that should give enough bump fo rme
 

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I wanna say it will help , but it might actually hurt the bass, because you cant max the stock one out at full volume, which means there isnt enuff power to overdrive it. Therefore if you swap in a "better higher watt rated one" it is more likely that the stiffer suspension on it would require more power to move it and thus less bass output. I will say that it would make the bass crisper, but less loud unless you power it with an add-on amplifier. even a crappy $30. 50watt amp would be enough, or a powered crossover/linedriver. You could always add that later if you feel you need it.
people have installed the jbl one I originally listed and said it made a great help. why do you think you can't max the stock one out?

the consensus is basically upgreade stock sub or stock speakers on factory amp but not both or it won't work well
 
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