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Hi guys,

I'm looking at making the following changes to my suspension: Coilovers, front and rear sway bar and (possibly) a strut brace. Car will driven daily and occasionally raced. Any suggestions / comments would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers!
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Dont bother with suspension mods until you first get some better tires. (If you have the Kumhos that is)

Koni yellows and some springs of your choice.
Don't listen to Chris. I would go for the chassis components first. Strut bar and lower chassis brace from Pierce has made a world of difference driving my car.

But yes, tire upgrades would also make a world of difference.
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Whiteline front and rear sway bars and sway links are good upgrades as well
i have lowering springs, front strut, rear sway(maintec type), 15mm spacers.

i can outcorner a lot of people and no need for alignment(got free one through dealer and it was no difference)
Dont bother with suspension mods until you first get some better tires. (If you have the Kumhos that is)

Koni yellows and some springs of your choice.
He's from Melbourne, Australia and our cars are fitted with Hankook Ventus Prime2 tyres which are not supersports tyres but are quite reasonable. Our version with stiffer suspension has impressive handling but if you're going racing that's quite a different story. It's a bit soft by sports coupe standards so it needs to be stiffened all-round including anti-roll bars and he will need better tyres than the Hankooks for racing as well. I would tend to go stiffer springs, koni dampers and better tyres.

Chassis flex is a not a major problem; I can corner mine on standard tyres and suspension more than 30km/h over advisory speed signs without approaching the car's limits, so strut bars and braces won't do anything much. If you go racing slicks then for sure but on road rubber it's just not going to generate enough grip.
Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

HellHunter, I was looking at the Pierce gear. Unfortunately, they do not ship to Australia. :crying:

Also cbrmale, cheers for the info on the Aus spec SR. This is exactly what I needed.
Hey guys, thanks for the replies.

HellHunter, I was looking at the Pierce gear. Unfortunately, they do not ship to Australia. :crying:

Also cbrmale, cheers for the info on the Aus spec SR. This is exactly what I needed.
Oh we ship to Australia---nearly every month---just haven't figured out how to do it affordably for a one item deal...anybody have any idea's?
Oh we ship to Australia---nearly every month---just haven't figured out how to do it affordably for a one item deal...anybody have any idea's?
Sounds very tempting - will have to touch base once my SR arrives.
999RXerox,
The Veloster is sluggish for the first few thousand kilometres because the ECU allows only part-throttle until a certain distance has been covered. So when you get yours it will take some time for it to get going properly. It didn't take me long to master the steering and handling of the Veloster (I took a demonstrator for a run on a rough, winding country road and ended up buying that demonstrator), and I was impressed on that first run. However when the car started to pick up more performance I was better able to balance it off the throttle and extract even more grip out of it. Basically it's a bit soft to develop maximum grip on smooth roads although on rougher roads it's a better compromise than, say, a German hot hatch. You can push the Veloster hard on rougher roads where on a stiffly sprung German car you end up backing off because it's all too painful! Like any well set-up front wheel drive with a lot of power it responds well to being driven smoothly, so brake straight, turn in sharp but smooth and squeeze the throttle to balance it on the way out. If you do that it handles very impressively indeed, despite the Hankook tyres (which are decent enough but not quite ultimate for stickiness). A lot of drivers turn-in early, go in off-line and drag the brakes all through the curve, and if they do that like any car the Veloster will try to understeer off the road. Like you I ride motorcycles, I used to race them in years past and I also do a bit of car racing these days, so I do know my cornering techniques.

Australian turbos come with an all-glass roof and glass does not flex. So lets say I'm taking the fast sweepers between Goulburn and Canberra (signposted 85 and 95) at around 130 (with the car rock-solid on the road). If the car was flexing I would hear those glass panels and the sunroof rattling and chattering, but I don't. Instead the car corners flat, the steering gives me great feedback and I am getting immense grip (and probably scaring the drivers I am going past given they're braking for those curves and I'm going past so very fast on the outside lane). This is why I think that strut braces and chassis braces are a waste of money, until at least you get a chance to explore how the Veloster handles on your favourite driver's road. Mind you in Victoria they would shred your licence on the spot if you drove the way we do in New South Wales and the ACT, so that's another limiting factor for road driving (I couldn't believe they actually have cars parked on the side of the road with speed cameras in them - they can't do that in NSW and ACT; it has to be a highway patrol car and they have to pull out and book you). So what you can actually do on winding roads is partially limited by how fast you can go in Victora; a 75km/h curve is an easy 110 or more so anything less tight than that curve is a moot point.

The limiting factor for me, and I did have a German hot hatch previously, is the Veloster is so well balanced and generates so much grip that you end up not being able to go fast enough to stretch it, and your favourite, winding, driver's road becomes just an easy cruise.
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Cbrmale.

Mate thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate the fact that you are taking time to pass on your knowledge re the Veloster.
Could Pierce hook up with a local (AUS) fabricator and email the specs and have them made locally? Just a thought
Man the Aussie cars sound awesome---here's a couple vids/reviews of mine at the track. The first vid is bone stock/brand new---the second vid is with an exhaust and our handling package/products---without adding any power to speak of---and running in temps that were 30 degree's hotter we were able to take 9 seconds a lap off our times with our chassis braces/coilovers/better street tires/rims...our American version cars are not particularly "fast" out of the box---but pretty well balanced and fun. With a little bit of suspension tuning we're able to make it a viable platform---we ticked off a 1:39 at the track---our Grand-AM SRT4 and World Challenge TC class Volvo run 1:35's in race form on slicks---the Veloster has the potential with some work...

Interesting that it will go into limp mode because of it sloshing around on the track, even with that much gas left in it. Obviously they didn't have the track in mind when designing the fuel tank :p.
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