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Really? I would have thought the Mustang would beat a VT, but then again I have no idea how much HP a Mustang has.
 

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I raped a MazdaSpeed3 while others have lost to Civics... lol I don't know but this may be a stretch but in reality they could have been an awful driver.
 

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did the GT or the MS3 know you guys were driving? or were they parked..

If either car was actually trying, they would swallow up the Vturbo and poop it out the tail pipe..

I guess if the stang GT was from before 2000 it might be a possibility.

I love my car but no way in hell it would take either of these cars if both drivers knew we were actually racing, haha.

Even if the drivers were subpar they would still smoke us.
 

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Have to agree with Turbosocks about whether they knew they were "competing". I was spanked by a Camaro RS last week once the other drive knew were "competing". The positives were that we were both laughing about after, I expected to get spanked, and the driver was good looking.
 

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it was either the car or my driving skills. (or was it the catch can mod, or the 0w20 i changed the oil to?)
Either way, win win! :)

(i said the car "held it's own", not "that Mustang was choking on my dust". Proud of my little ricer econo-turbo car)
 

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did the GT or the MS3 know you guys were driving? or were they parked..

If either car was actually trying, they would swallow up the Vturbo and poop it out the tail pipe..

I guess if the stang GT was from before 2000 it might be a possibility.

I love my car but no way in hell it would take either of these cars if both drivers knew we were actually racing, haha.

Even if the drivers were subpar they would still smoke us.
Yeah the MS3 definitely knew it was down, he instigated it. lol If you guys don't know MS3 actually Dyno 223hp stock and most of them around here don't actually tune to improve that. I know it should have spitted me out both holes but I'm going to guess he was a horrible driver. Also, MS3 dyno at 223hp. Now if we get our tune we should make 223 and have no issues with non tuned MS3s. Trust.
 

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yeah, maybe a dyno of 223 but that is to the wheels..

The M/T VTs dyno from what I recall was ~180 to the wheels and Injens dyno of the AT with the stock intake was ~165whp.

Even with a tune, I don't think the VT will have a chance in hell at reaching 225whp.. on a M/T transmission, that would be a ~45hp jump from stock. Jun BLs gains on the catback system don't seem to promising either (I think it was like 5hp)

a 45hp jump from stock would be a 25% increase or so.. That much increase just from a tune/CAI/exhaust on a motor this small is just probably not going to happen..
 

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I agree with turbosocks. No way a tune gets us to 225whp. Maybe if we were driving around a mustang gt. My buddy gained about that much with intake, headers, and full exhaust with a tune. Two different things.
 

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Yeah the MS3 definitely knew it was down, he instigated it. lol If you guys don't know MS3 actually Dyno 223hp stock and most of them around here don't actually tune to improve that. I know it should have spitted me out both holes but I'm going to guess he was a horrible driver. Also, MS3 dyno at 223hp. Now if we get our tune we should make 223 and have no issues with non tuned MS3s. Trust.
I had an MS3 it dynoed at 237whp. what probably happened was the MS3 guy didnt realize you have to short shift the MS3. the power falls off drastically at about 5500rpms
 

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Sometimes the other drivers on the "track" may influence the outcome, that and the fact that some ppl feel that if they can't beat you by a certain speed then they give up. I for one if challenged I'm going all out, not gonna give anyone an easy win
 

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I was behind a MS3 yesterday going home from work. This guy that was in front of him almost stopped to take a right hand turn and when the guy finally turned I was like I'm going to keep up with this MS3 guy, well my mistake the MS3 was a m/t he dropped a gear the same time I did and he was like gone like he stole it, i was like picking my jaw up off my lap. But still love the m/t VT, patted the dash and drove on home, lol
 

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did the GT or the MS3 know you guys were driving? or were they parked..

If either car was actually trying, they would swallow up the Vturbo and poop it out the tail pipe..

I guess if the stang GT was from before 2000 it might be a possibility.

I love my car but no way in hell it would take either of these cars if both drivers knew we were actually racing, haha.

Even if the drivers were subpar they would still smoke us.
What he said!
 

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I was behind a MS3 yesterday going home from work. This guy that was in front of him almost stopped to take a right hand turn and when the guy finally turned I was like I'm going to keep up with this MS3 guy, well my mistake the MS3 was a m/t he dropped a gear the same time I did and he was like gone like he stole it, i was like picking my jaw up off my lap. But still love the m/t VT, patted the dash and drove on home, lol
All MS3 should be manuals .. at least the last two are. It's all good tho, he can't get 40 MPG lmao and neither will you if you ever decide to upgrade your turbo.
 

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Im sorry guys but the VT's trap around 92mph meaning a MS3, SRT4, Mustang GT, Camaro SS is going to rape you. Even the new mustang V6's pull 101 in the quarter mile. Anyone who says or thinks they actually have a chance needs a reality check. These cars are not fast

VT's against....

96-98 Mustang GT - 225 hp and slow so possible
99+ Mustang GT - 260 hp and no chance
1993 - 1997 Camaro Z28/Trans Am - 285hp and no chance
1998 - 2002 Camaro Z28/Trans Am - Rated at 305hp, Dyno at 300 to the wheels and no chance
Dodge Neon SRT4 - No chance

Needless there's no reason to go on
 

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If you are looking for an actual performance car than there are lots of options for you - and the Veloster Turbo is not one of them.

When it comes to performance cars you have 3 real options; the BMW M3, the Porsche 911 and the Chevrolet Corvette. There are countless other performance cars that people go on about but only these 3 can be raced reliably and win the big races. All of the other performance cars are also-rans. And frankly everything but a Chevrolet Corvette is an also-ran. A stock Corvette will smoke every BMW and Porsche except a special race Porsche. A Z06 Corvette will smoke every Porsche and all but the most expensive Ferrari and Lamborghini and it will chase them to the nearest garage as they break down.

The Hyundai Veloster Turbo will chase those Mustangs, Camaros and especially that Neon SRT4 to the junkyard. All 3 of those cars are pretty much gone now. The Camaro was the worst. The GM build quality was horrible, the interiors fell apart, they shoved that huge V-8 so far back that you couldn't change the spark plugs and there was 4 feet of nose in the front and the ride was horrible. Those Mustangs held up a little better but even though they sold millions of them they are all in the junkyard now. They just fell off the map. Part of their charm was that they were simple and used a common platform so they should last - but they didn't. The Neon SRT4 was obviously a hand grenade that we knew wouldn't last. Remember all those old Dodge Shelby Turbo FWD cars?

Speaking of hand grenades, the Subaru WRX. That is/was a great car. The first couple generations of them seemed to hold up, being Subarus and all. They are all gone now too.

Is your car reliable? It has the best warranty. Is your car reliable or is your warranty reliable? So the Honda commercial asks. That's a stupid question. If your car is reliable you have no problem offering a huge warranty because you know that you won't have to honor it.

That's why I chose Hyundai.
 
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